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Saturday, 08 January 2011 19:33

Geforce GTX 560 comes in late January

Written by Fuad Abazovic


CES 2011: Tuesday the 25th
It looks like Nvidia's Geforce GTX 560 might show up before the end of the month. Tuesday the 25th is probably the last Tuesday that Nvidia can use, in the eve of the Chinese New Year.

During Chinese new year, it's next to impossible to get any serious hardware shipment out of Asia.

Geforce GTX 560 is a fully enabled GF104 core with all eight clusters turned on and we used to call this card GTX 475 before. Nvidia thinks that calling it Geforce GTX 560 is a better idea and that it will be a worthy replacement for the GTX 460.

The card is faster than the GTX 470 and promises great performance in the $199 market. Nvidia lacked competitive products in this price range, so the new card should put more pressure on AMD's Radeon HD 6870 in this market.

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+39 #1 nECrO 2011-01-08 19:45
Having competition at all price points is a good thing, re-branded or not. Now lets wait and see some benchmarks.
 
 
+11 #2 inaphasia 2011-01-08 19:48
Who cares?

No thanks to nVidia, this war should have happened over 12 months ago:( Now I gotta wait for the "Really, really, real Fermi":

Fermi: 400 series
"Real" Fermi: 500 series
Really real Fermi: 28nm Fermi with an "acceptable" TDP but with a few cores disabled.
Really, really real Fermi: 28nm, all cores enabled. (Hooray! Finally we can start re-branding again!)

Disclaimer: Unfortunatly, I'm one of those rare people that actually NEED Cuda.
 
 
+7 #3 Zone 2011-01-08 20:33
Quoting inaphasia:
Disclaimer: Unfortunatly, I'm one of those rare people that actually NEED Cuda.



Umm why?
How can you really NEED something that has only been around for so long :S
 
 
+28 #4 aussiebear 2011-01-08 20:50
Let me get this right inaphasia

You blame Nvidia because their manufacturing supplier failed to transition to a lower die shrink? I suppose you'd also blame ATI/AMD for their lack of performance progress as well with the recent Radeon HD 6xxx line?

The real culprit is TSMC. You can't make a good product if your supplier cannot give you what you need.

There is a reason why the GTX 4xx flopped and Radeon HD 6xxx exists. Its because TSMC screwed up the 32nm transition; AMD and Nvidia had to compensate while they wait for 28nm.

The effect is like a drop in a puddle of water (supplier). The consequential ripples affect the rest of the puddle (clients/customers).
 
 
+23 #5 arclight 2011-01-08 20:56
If it's faster than the 470, that means the 6870 is toast. But the price, 199$, highly unlikely if you add VAT.

Not even the GTX460 1 Gb can be found that cheap in my country. I'd expect it to be around 300$ in shops.

If it costs 250$ or a bit less with VAT i will certainly buy it, but i srsly doubt it will be cheaper than 6870 (again i'm talking about prices in Eastern Europe so don't bother me with Western prices, my heart can't take it :cry: )
 
 
+6 #6 nECrO 2011-01-08 21:00
Quote:
There is a reason why the GTX 4xx flopped and Radeon HD 6xxx exists. Its because TSMC screwed up the 32nm transition; AMD and Nvidia had to compensate while they wait for 28nm.



While I agree with all of your points including the one I quoted above, I will say that TSMC's issues with new processes has everything to do with the astronomical complexities with each new die shrink and not bungling or ineptitude on TSMC's part. As we get smaller and smaller these days, the engineering hurdles get bigger and bigger and the solutions that much harder to come by.
 
 
+2 #7 inaphasia 2011-01-08 21:35
@zone Adobe Premiere (Mercury Playback Engine) & Seti@Home

@aussiebear I got a feeling nVidia designed Fermi @32nm but jumped the gun @40nm. Having to wait for a 2gen 28nm card though does have everything to do with TSMC! I can't imagine they'll get it right the first time (though I'd love to be proven wrong).
 
 
0 #8 inaphasia 2011-01-08 21:58
On a side note, everything Adobe works fantastically well on nVidias. I wonder why Jen-Hsun Huang hasn't told world plus dog yet...
 
 
+3 #9 Bl0bb3r 2011-01-08 22:04
@inaphasia, from what I've heard, Fermi wasn't designed for anything yet, it was a put on the shelf until a proper technology would be available. The thing is that what they designed for 40nm was crap and was put on the shelf as well, but that gave Fermi another chance. So this is why they are here... I, myself, can't see how a corp. 5 times larger than ATI could've sunk so much unless there was so truth to the rumors.
 
 
-2 #10 guideX 2011-01-09 02:19
Quoting arclight:
If it's faster than the 470, that means the 6870 is toast.


Why? The 6870 was faster then the 470 in many mainstream games, COD, BC2, Crysis etc etc, not to mention power usage, fan noise and of course insane crossfire scalability. If AMD drop the 6870 price then the 560 is TOAST. I really doubt the Nvidia can afford to price a card slightly stronger then a 6870 at less than $250 retail.
 

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